My
name is Sanya Noel and I’m a poet living in Nairobi. I work as a mechatronic
engineer during the day and get back home in the evening to read and write,
though that is getting a little harder with time. I’m an editor at Enkare
Review, which is a Nairobi based literary magazine that I joined in in 2016. I
love some running, it helps clear up my mind and I do a lot of thinking while
at it. I graduated from
engineering school in 2015.
Photo credit: Prophix studios
1.
What
have you been up to since you won in 2016?
I
joined a literary magazine, Enkare Review, in 2016, and in the two years since
then, I’ve lived a whole literary life. I’ve been an editor, copy editor, at
the back organizing things, researching for interviews of writers I like, and
many others for the lit-mag. I put my literary production on hold for a while
running the lit-mag and it’s only recently that I got the energy to get back to
it. There was something I read about Orwell, a period when he worked in a
bookshop. For a while later, Orwell couldn’t read. He just didn’t enjoy it
anymore. One of my favorite editors is Mary Norris of the New Yorker, and I
must have read something related to her editing in her Between You and Me, how
she just couldn’t enjoy reading after becoming a copy-ed. at the New Yorker. It
must have been the same with me. By getting involved in a high energy lit-mag,
it was like seeing how sausages are made. It became almost impossible for me to
read. I was always on the edge, my editor mode activated as I looked for imperfections
that writers and editors of the works I was reading had missed. But it’s gone
now, that active mode. At least most of it. I’m settling back to enjoying a
good old honest poem and writing one myself. And a once in a while short story
and that occasional essay or non-fiction piece.
Award-giving at the #Babishai2016 poetry festival in Kampala. Photo credit: Prophix studios |
2.
You’ve
been writing for a while. What can Kenya and the region look forward to in the
next three years?
A
friend and mentor reached out to me and offered a good deal. He was publishing,
and I was to publish along with him. He’s an experienced writer and a person I
look up to. I took it up, but the works have been in the doldrums for a while
now. But three years is a long time for me to be too terrified of committing
now, isn’t it? Definitely a chapbook in the very least. Perhaps a full length
collection by then. I’m just getting back to the work and starting from scratch
while at it. It will take me some time to get back to full flight here, but I
have that chapbook ready, it has been ready for years, and I think it’s damned
good. I have a good feeling about it, though in Kiswahili, we say mavi ya kale
hayanuki (Old droppings do not stink.) Old
poems may not excite me that much, and I may have to do an overhaul. That is if
my friend doesn’t like them. I hope he does though.
3.
We
know that you’ll be coming for our tenth anniversary. What do you hope to see?
It’s
the poetry. I’d like to meet some of the past winners and see their work, or
their contributions. I think prizes are like blocks in running. They help you
to take off at the starting line in a race. There is a recognition that comes
with winning a prize and the money is important too. I want to meet and read
the poets who won the prize before me and those after. And I just want
conversations too. One of the things I’ve learned about old poets is their
sense of community, and it’s not just among the poets. I’m thinking of
musicians like Freshlei Mwamburi and how they had this sense of community with
others like.
4.
Of
the winners in the haiku and poetry categories of our prizes, are there any
whose works you follow to-date?
I
have followed Lillian Aujo’s work and wished she put out poems more often. I
think she’s a brilliant poet. I also keep checking on Orimoloye Moyosore and
what he’s been doing at Agbowo, another online lit-mag. The change to haiku
threw me a little off-guard, it’s not a form I’ve looked that thoroughly into.
6. How has African poetry changed in the
past five years?
Mentioning
African Poetry almost always brings to mind the African Poetry Book Fund (APBF)
and the Brunel Prize for African Poetry. Perhaps it’s the money that attracts
attention to these prizes, or the models they use. Brunel accepts a body of
work, ten poems, as APBF’s Sillerman Prize, which accepts a full length collection.
In 2013, I was an engineering student at Jomo Kenyatta University (JKUAT) who
spent nearly all his time reading and writing poems, and I looked up to the
poets at APBF. I liked them. Clifton Gachagua had just won the Sillerman Prize
and Brunel was coming up. Interesting.
I'm wary of poets becoming pretentious though, over time. It happens sometimes. I also long for more accessibility of African poets on the continent. It's disheartening when some of these poets' works are inaccessible to us living on the continent and when some prizes seem to favour Western based African poets over our own African based poets.
I'm wary of poets becoming pretentious though, over time. It happens sometimes. I also long for more accessibility of African poets on the continent. It's disheartening when some of these poets' works are inaccessible to us living on the continent and when some prizes seem to favour Western based African poets over our own African based poets.
On the continent here, I’ve seen poets become quite solid. We have created spaces here, and
these have made poets work more. Visibility is really important. Kalahari
Review, Enkare Review, Jalada Africa, Kikwetu Journal,Expound Magazine, these
spaces have in a way inspired many to keep doing it. My discomfort is with the
styles we may have inspired. Taking stock at Enkare Review, it suddenly hit me
that the poetry we have published in our issues has been of one particular
style, and one that I’d criticize for being too abstract, though abstract is
alright. But a once in a while direct poem is a beauty too. We need those more
often.
7. Which African poet do you find yourself
reading over and over again? Why?
It’s
got to be Chris Abani. A friend introduced me to his Sanctificum about a year ago and I keep going back. There’s a mix
of solidity and nuance to Abani’s poetry that just draws you in. I think I’m
going to spend a good amount of my money on his books at the end of this year.
I’ve got some book-mules coming over from America and it’s time to become poor
again, for Abani. I like his simplicity. I sometimes compare writing poetry to
walking in a pool of water. If the water
level is low, your weight exerts some force on the floor and you have some
grip. I like that, some grip to the poem. With the water increasing, your
become buoyant and lose that grip. You can’t walk or run anymore, and now
you’ve got to swim, but it’s not high enough to swim well enough. I like some
familiarity. Poems are supposed to be clever, but not too clever while at it.
Otherwise, we lose the plot. Abani brings all these things in a poem.
There
is also something about Jonathan Kariara and Marjorie Oludhe Magcoye that keeps
drawing me back to them. It’s perhaps their references in their works. Oludhe
wrote direct poems in such a lovely way. Kariara was sophisticated in a way
that was ahead of his time.
8. What do you want to see in African poetry
in the next five years?
It is publishing houses set up here. In Nigeria, Richard Ali has
set up Konya Shamsruni, which I believe would be an equivalent of Copper Canyon
Press. In Kenya, we have had long conversations about the same. I think we need
to publish more poets here and distribute the work on the continent. This will
inspire more poets.
But it’s not just publishing houses. We need quality too. I’m
imagining if we put together a chapbook series that had Richard Oduor Oduku, Michelle
Angwenyi, Harriet Anena, Lillian Aujo, Lydia Kasese, Saba El Lazim and Mariel
Awendit. Wouldn’t that be something now? Let’s say we are publishing
bi-annually. Seven East African poets. Two years later, we have another round
of fresh poets, say a mix of the experienced ones and bring in the younger
ones: Phyllis Muthoni, Taban Lo Liyong, Alexis Teyie... And we keep this going such that these poets
actually earn their royalties and that the publishing houses become
self-sustaining. I would love to see that, publications that sustain themselves while producing good quality work.
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Join Sanya Noel for our tenth anniversary celebrations in Kabale by Lake Bunyonyi, from 21-24 March 2019.
Details here:
BABISHAI@10 ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATIONS
*****
Join Sanya Noel for our tenth anniversary celebrations in Kabale by Lake Bunyonyi, from 21-24 March 2019.
Details here:
BABISHAI@10 ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATIONS